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> >La Voz de Aztlan >Los Angeles, Alta California >September 27, 2001 > >Dear La Voz de Aztlan Subscribers: > >We have been carefully covering the tragedy >that occurred in New York and Washington >since we first sent out three "News Bulletins" >to you as the events were actually happening. >As the events unfolded and specially as the >news coverage by the mainstream media >evolved, we could not help sensing that >"something" was amiss concerning the way the >public was being "guided" to a consensus on the >question as to who may be behind the terrorist >attacks. We now suspect that CNN is essentially >a tool of the CIA/MOSSAD apparatus because of >the way they started disseminating >disinformation that was picked up by ABC, CBS >and NBC Television Networks. We now have a >strong opinion that most Americans have been had. > >Our staff is well traveled and acquainted with >the contemporary geopolitical realities. We have >an understanding of the Middle East Crisis, the >history of Israel, the U.S. deep dependence on >Middle East oil and of the ties of the Bush >family to petroleum interests. There have been >many pundits of disinformation that have been >attempting to explain things to us. We have not >bought any of it. > >Today we received the following article by a >"dean of world journalism" Arnaud >De Borchgrave. Mr. De Borchgrave is presently >the United Press International Editor at >Large and has had a distinguished career in >journalism. At 75, De Borchgrave has been >around the world and back, becoming an expert in >many fields. The Belgium native served four >years in the British Royal Navy and went on to >become Newsweek's bureau chief in Paris, then >chief European correspondent for the magazine. >At age 27, he became Newsweek's senior editor, >working there for 25 years. In 1985 he was >appointed editor-in-chief of The Washington >Times and Insight magazine, a position he left >in 1991. He has impeccable journalism >credentials and he is providing us information >that you will definitely not hear on television >tonight. The following article and it's >explanation of events makes a lot of sense to >La Voz de Aztlan. The article was written by >Mr. De Borchgrave after a 90 minute interview of >the ex-Chief of Intelligence of Pakistan, General >Hameed Gul. The actual transcript of the >interview follows the article. As young men and >women of America are being called to die for the >country, it is important to know why they will >give their lives: > >------------------------------------------------ > >Wednesday, 26 September 2001 > >Pakistan's ex-spy chief blames Mossad > >By ARNAUD DE BORCHGRAVE >UPI Editor at Large > >RAWALPINDI, Pakistan, Sept. 26 (UPI) -- The Sept. >11 terrorist attacks on the United States were >perpetrated by renegade U.S. Air Force elements >working in conjunction with Mossad, the Israeli >intelligence service, according to the retired >Pakistani general who is closest to the Taliban >and Osama bin Laden. > >Gen. Hameed Gul, head of Inter Services >Intelligence, the equivalent of a CIA-cum-FBI >combination, during the war against the Soviet >occupation of Afghanistan, spent two weeks in >the war-torn country immediately prior to Sept. >11. He has been acting as "strategic adviser" to >Pakistan's extremist religious political parties. >Four religious leaders left his house in the >army's principal garrison town as this reporter >arrived at 9:30 p.m. Tuesday. The interview >lasted 90 minutes. > >Already countless millions of Muslims believe >that the World Trade Center and Pentagon suicide >attacks were part of a Mossad plot to force the >United States into confrontation with the Muslim >world. Now Gul has added a new disinformation >wrinkle to the plot. And what Gul says or writes >is taken at face value by religious leaders and >is repeated in thousands of mosques at Friday >prayers. > > In an exclusive interview with United Press > International, the fundamentalist general said > it is now clear that there was also a plot by > U.S. Air Force officers against the Pentagon. > > "The twin towers were first attacked at 8:45 > a.m.," he said, "and four flights were diverted > from their assigned air space, and yet Air > Force jets didn't scramble until 10 a.m. That > smacks of a small-scale Air Force rebellion, a > coup attempt against the Pentagon perhaps? > Radars are jammed, transponders fail. No IFF -- > friend or foe identification -- challenge ... > This was clearly an inside job. (President) > Bush was afraid and rushed to the shelter of a > nuclear bunker. > >"(Bush) clearly feared a nuclear situation. Who >could that have been? Will that also be hushed >up in the investigation, like the Warren report >after the Kennedy assassination?" > >Gul said that his friend bin Laden had sworn to >him on the Koran that he was not involved. > >"From a cave inside a mountain or a peasant's >hovel," Gul asked, how could bin Laden mount >such a sophisticated operation? "Let's be >serious," he said with a smile. "Mossad and its >American associates are the obvious culprits," >he added by asking, "Who benefits from the crime?" > >Asked why Israel would benefit, Gul replied, >"Israel knows it has a short shelf-life before >it is overwhelmed by demographics (and it) has >now handed the (Bush administration) the >opportunity it has been waiting for to >consolidate America's imperial grip on the Gulf >and acquire control of the Caspian basin by >extending its military presence in Central Asia." > >Gul said the U.S. plan was "the destabilization >of Pakistan because it is a Muslim nuclear state. >The U.S. wants to isolate Pakistan from China as >part of its containment policy. President >Nixon's book 'The Real War' said China would be >the superpower of the 21st century. The U.S. is >also creating hostility between Pakistan and >Afghanistan, two Muslim states, to reverse the >perception that the Islamic world now has its >own nuclear weapons. Bush 43 doesn't realize he >is being manipulated by people who understand >geopolitics. He is not leading but being led. >All he can do is think in terms of the >wanted-dead-or-alive culture which is how >Hollywood conditions the masses to think and act." > >"Bush 43" is actually Washington shorthand for >distinguishing President George W. Bush from his >father. President George W. Bush is the 43rd >president: George Bush Sr. was the 41st. > >Gul admitted that he turned against America when >the United States walked away from Afghanistan >following the Soviet withdrawal in 1989. > >"We were all pro-American (during the war) but >then America left us in the lurch and everything >went to pieces, including Afghanistan." > >Asked if the United States was now his enemy, >Gul replied, "Is the U.S. national interest in >contradiction with the Muslim world? The U.S. >needs oil, as do its European allies. You have >between 6 and 8 million American Muslims and >their ranks are growing. About the same number >in Europe. Israel aside, we are America's >natural allies. Professor Sam Huntington in his >(book) 'Clash of Civilizations' puts Confucius >and Judeo-Christians in one corner, and us in >the other. His prescription is wrong but is >being adopted by Bush 43 who has now put 60 >countries on his hit list. This is the >diabolical school that wants to launch an >anti-Muslim 'crusade.' Muslims understood what >Bush meant when he used that word. We need a >meeting, not a clash, of civilizations." > >If Pakistan gives the U.S. base facilities, Gul >warned, "we will have a national upheaval" and >if the United States attacks Afghanistan, there >will be "a general jihad (holy war) ... and >Pakistan will be engulfed in the firestorm. So I >can only hope that cooler heads will prevail in >Washington." > >Asked to consider the possibility that bin Laden >-- or OBL as he is referred to in Pakistani >conversations -- was lying to him and is indeed >guilty as charged by the United States, Gul said, >"If Taliban are given irrefutable evidence of >his guilt, I am in favor of a fair trial. In >America one is entitled to a jury of peers. But >he has no American peers. The Taliban would not >object, in the event of a prima face case, to an >international Islamic court meeting in The Hague. >They would extradite Osama to the Netherlands." > >-- > >UPI Interview with General Hameed Gul > >Wednesday, 26 September 2001 17:31 (ET) > >UPI Interview with Gen. Hameed Gul By ARNAUD de >BORCHGRAVE > > (EXCLUSIVE) > > RAWALPINDI, Pakistan, Sept. 26 (UPI) -- The > retired Pakistani general who is closest to the > Taliban and Osama bin Laden contends the Sept. > 11 terrorist attacks on New York City and > Washington were the work of renegade U.S. Air > Force elements working with the Israelis. Gen. > Hameed Gul led Pakistan's Inter Services > Intelligence during the war against the Soviet > occupation of Afghanistan. Gul serves as an > adviser to Pakistan's extremist religious > political parties, which oppose their > government's decision to support the United > States in any action against Afghanistan's > Taliban regime. Gul contends bin Laden had > nothing to do with the terrorist attacks on New > York and Washington, saying instead that they > were the work of the Mossad, the Israeli > intelligence service -- a version of events > that has been endorsed by Islamic > fundamentalist clerics and is widely accepted > by Muslims throughout the Arab world. > > Here is the transcript of the exclusive > interview Gul gave to Arnaud de Borchgrave, > United Press International editor at large: > > -- > > De Borchgrave: So who did Black Sept. 11? > > Gul: Mossad and its accomplices. The U.S. > spends $40 billion a year on its 11 > intelligence agencies. That's $400 billion in > 10 years. Yet the Bush Administration says it > was taken by surprise. I don't believe it. > Within 10 minutes of the second twin tower > being hit in the World Trade Center ... CNN > said Osama bin Laden had done it. That was a > planned piece of disinformation by the real > perpetrators. It created an instant mindset and > put public opinion into a trance, which > prevented even intelligent people from thinking > for themselves. > >-- > > Q: So you're already convinced bin Laden didn't > do it? > > A: I know bin Laden and his associates. I've > been with them here, in Europe and the Middle > East. They are graduates of the best > universities and are highly intelligent with > impressive degrees and speak impeccable English. > These are people who have rediscovered > fundamental Islamic values. Many come from the > Gulf countries where ruling royal families have > generated hatred by the way they flout divine > law, wasting billions on gratifying their whims, > jetting around in large private jets by > themselves, and sailing the Mediterranean in > big private boats for weeks on end. Osama's > best recruits come from feudal areas that are > U.S. protectorates and where millions of poor > people are seeking human dignity. I have even > visited a Christian convent school in Murree, > 60 miles from here, where my 13-year-old > daughter is studying. The young girls there > have told me Osama is their hero. Osama's > followers identify with Mujahideen freedom > fighters wherever they are defending Islam and > its values. > > -- > > Q: So what makes you think Osama wasn't behind > Sept. 11? > > A: From a cave inside a mountain or a peasant's > hovel? Let's be serious. Osama inspires > countless millions by standing up for Islam > against American and Israeli imperialism. He > doesn't have the means for such a sophisticated > operation. > > -- > > Q: Why Mossad? > > A: Mossad and its American associates are the > obvious culprits. Who benefits from the crime? > The attacks against the twin towers started at > 8:45 a.m. and four flights are diverted from > their assigned air space and no air traffic > controller sounds the alarm. And no Air Force > jets scramble until 10 a.m. That also smacks of > a small scale Air Force rebellion, a coup > against the Pentagon perhaps? Radars are jammed, > transponders fail. No IFF -- friend or foe > identification -- challenge. In Pakistan, if > there is no response to IFF, jets are instantly > scrambled and the aircraft is shot down with no > further questions asked. This was clearly an > inside job. Bush was afraid and rushed to the > shelter of a nuclear bunker. He clearly feared > a nuclear situation. Who could that have been? > Will that also be hushed up in the > investigation, like the Warren report after the > Kennedy assassination? > > -- > > Q: At this point, someone might be asking what > you've been smoking. What is Israel's interest > in such a monstrous plot, which, of course, no > one believes except Islamist extremists who > concocted this piece of disinformation in the > first place, presumably to detract from the > real culprits? > > A: Jews never agreed to Bush 41 (George H.W. > Bush, the 41st president) or 43 (his son George > W. Bush, the 43rd president). They made sure > Bush senior didn't get a second term. His > land-for-peace pressure in Palestine didn't > suit Israel. They were also against the young > Bush because he was considered too close to oil > interests and the Gulf countries. Bush senior > and Jim Baker had raised $150 million for Bush > junior, much of it from Mideast sources or > their American go-betweens. Bush 41 and Baker, > as private citizens, had also facilitated the > new strategic relationship between Saudi Arabia > and Iran. I have this from sources in both > countries. So clearly the prospect of a Bush 43 > was a potential danger to Israel. > > Jews were stunned by the way Bush stole the > election in Florida. They had put big money on > Al Gore. Israel has given its imperialist > guardian parent opportunities to turn disaster > into a pretext for imposing an all-encompassing > military, political and economic agenda to > further the cause of global capitalism. While > Colin Powell is cautious and others are > reckless and want to make up for their failure > to defeat Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War 10 > years ago, the global agenda is the same. > > Israel knows it has a short shelf-life before > it is overwhelmed by demographics. It is a > state that was born in terrorism that > terrorized Palestinians into the exile of > refugee camps, where they have now subsisted in > squalid refugee camps, and is now very much > afraid of Pakistan's nuclear capability. > > Israel has now handed the Bush family the > opportunity it has been waiting for to > consolidate America's imperial grip on the Gulf > and acquire control of the Caspian basin by > extending its military presence in Central Asia. > Bush conveniently overlooks -- or is not told > -- the fact that Islamic fundamentalists got > their big boost in the modern age as CIA assets > in the covert campaign I was also involved with > to force the Soviets out of Afghanistan. Bush > senior was vice president during that entire > campaign. And no sooner did he become president > on Jan. 20, 1989, than he summoned an > inter-agency intelligence meeting and issued an > order, among several others, to clip the wings > of ISI (Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence) > that had been coordinating the entire operation > in Afghanistan. I know this firsthand as I was > DGISI at the time (director general, ISI). > > -- > > Q: So how do you read U.S. strategy in Pakistan? > > A: The destabilization of Pakistan is part of > the U.S. plan because it is a Muslim nuclear > state. The U.S. wants to isolate Pakistan from > China as part of its containment policy. > President Nixon's book "The Real War" said > China would be the superpower of the 21st > Century. The U.S. is also creating hostility > between Pakistan and Afghanistan, two Muslim > states to reverse the perception that the > Islamic world now has its own nuclear weapons. > Bush 43 doesn't realize he is being manipulated > by people who understand geopolitics. He is not > leading but being led. All he can do is think > in terms of the wanted-dead-or-alive culture, > which is how Hollywood conditions the masses to > think and act. > > All summer long we heard about America's > shrinking surplus and that the Pentagon would > not have sufficient funds to modernize for the > 21st century. And now, all of a sudden, the > Pentagon can get what it wants without any > Democratic Party opposition. How very > convenient! Even your cherished civil liberties > can now be abridged with impunity to protect > the expansion of the hegemony of transnational > capitalism. There is now a new excuse to crush > anti-globalization protests. > > Bush 43 follows Bush 41. Iraq was baited into > the Kuwaiti trap when the U.S. told Saddam it > was not interested in his inter-Arab squabbles. > Two days later, he moved into Kuwait, which was > an Iraqi province anyway before the British > Empire decreed otherwise. Roosevelt baited the > Pearl Harbor trap for the Japanese empire, > which provided the pretext for entering World > War II. And now the Israelis have given the U.S. > the pretext for further expansion into an area > that will be critical in the next 25 years - > the Caspian basin. > > -- > > Q: Were you a fundamentalist in the days of the > war against the Soviets in Afghanistan when you > worked closely with the CIA? > > A: Not as much as I am today. > > -- > > Q: What turned you against America? > > A: Betrayals and broken promises and what was > done to my army career. > > -- > > Q: And what was that? > > A: President Ishaq Khan, who succeeded Zia > ul-Haq after his plane was blown out of the sky, > wanted to appoint me chief of staff, the > highest position in the Pakistani army. The U.S., > which by then had clipped ISI's wings, also > blocked my promotion by informing the president > I was unacceptable. So I was moved to a corps > commander position. As ISI director, I held the > whole Mujahideen movement in the palm of my > hands. We were all pro-American. But then > America left us in the lurch and everything > went to pieces, including Afghanistan. > > The U.S. pushed for a broad-based Afghan > government of seven factions and then waved > goodbye. Even in the best of democracies, a > broad-based coalition does not work. So we > quickly had seven jokers in Kabul interested in > only one thing - jockeying for power. The > gunplay quickly followed, which led to the > creation of Taliban, the students of the > original Mujahideen, who decided to put an end > to it. > > -- > > Q: What happened to the 1,000 shoulder-fired > Stinger anti-aircraft missiles that were > supplied by president Reagan in 1986 and 87 to > the Mujahideen, and that literally grounded the > Soviet air force? > > A: After the Soviets pulled out, the CIA > allocated $60 million to try to buy them back. > This just drove the black market price up for > one Stinger from $100,000 to $300,000. The > Taliban still have about 250 of them for the > kind of situation they face today against U.S. > aircraft. > > -- > > Q: Is the U.S. now your enemy? > > A: Is the U.S. national interest in > contradiction with the Muslim world? The U.S. > needs oil, as do its European allies. You have > between 6 and 8 million American Muslims and > their ranks are growing. About the same number > in Europe. Israel aside, we are America's > natural allies. Prof. Sam Huntington in his > "Clash of Civilizations" puts Confucius and > Judeo-Christians in one corner, and us n the > other. His prescription is wrong but is being > adopted by Bush 43 who has now put 60 countries > on his hit list. This is the diabolical school > that wants to launch an anti-Muslim "crusade." > Muslims understood what Bush meant when he used > that word. > > We need a meeting, not a clash, of > civilizations. We are on the brink of disaster. > It is time to pull back from the brink and > reassess before we blow ourselves up. The > purpose of Islam is service to humanity. The > time for like-minded people to have a meeting > of the minds is now. > > -- > > Q: But you are against democracy, so how can > there be a meeting of the minds? > > A: Democracy does not work. Politicians are > constantly thinking of their next election, not > the public good, which means, at best, > constantly shading the truth to hide it from > their constituents. Their pronouncements are > laced with lies and the voters are lulled or > gulled into believing utter nonsense. The Koran > says call a spade a spade. It is the supreme > law and tells right from wrong. There is no > notion of "my country right or wrong" under > divine law. The creator's will predominates. > All if subservient to Allah's will and > adherence to a set of basic, fundamental values. > > -- > > Q: So what kind of a system are you advocating? > > A: The world needs a post-modern state system. > Right now, the nation-state and round the clock > satellite TV lead people to imitate America's > way of life. Which is mathematically impossible. > You have 4 percent of the world's population > consuming 32 percent of the world's resources. > The creator through Prophet Mohammed said equal > distribution. Capitalism is the negation of the > creator's will. It leads to imperialism and > unilateralism. > > -- > > Q: So what does this post-modern state system > look like? > > A: A global village under divine order, or we > will have global bloodshed until good triumphs > over evil. Islam encapsulates all the principal > religions and what was handed down 1,400 years > ago was the normal evolutionary sequel to > Judaism and Christianity. The prophet's last > sermon was a universal document of human rights > for everyone that surpasses everything that > came since, including America's declaration of > independence and the U.N. Charter of universal > rights. If you superimpose true secular values > on true Islamic values, there is no difference. > So surely divine law should supersede man-made > law. Islam is egalitarian, tolerant and > progressive. It is the wave of the future. > > -- > > Q: Marxism also believed that the nation-state > would eventually wither away. > > A: Socialism jumped the rails when it was > co-opted by the imperialist Soviet state. Islam > believes in dynamism, Christianity stands for > static statism. The pope in all his > pronouncements has expressed a dogmatic > attachment to the status quo. Why are so many > black Americans converting to Islam? Because > they are looking for true equality which they > cannot find under capitalism. Allah has no > gender, neither male nor female. Islam has no > indirect taxation in an interest-free economy. > Usury was a Jewish concept. > > -- > > Q: Is Iran your model? > > A: There isn't a single true Islamic state in > the world today. Iran has moved forward from > its 1979 revolution, but I am not sure whether > it's the right direction. > > -- > > Q: And Taliban? > > A: They represent Islam in its purest form so > far. It's a clean sheet. And they were also > moving in the right direction when this crisis > was cooked up by the U.S. Until Sept. 11, they > had perfect law and order with no formal police > force, only traffic cops without sidearms. Now, > in less than two weeks, they have mobilized > some 300,000 volunteers to fight American and > British invaders if they come. > > -- > > Q: And you reaction to U.S. demands on Pakistan? > > A: If Pakistan gives the U.S. base rights we > will have a national upheaval. And if the U.S. > attacks Afghanistan, there will be a call -- a > fatwa -- for a general jihad. All borders will > then disappear and it will be a no-holds-barred > Islamic uprising against Israel and American > imperialism. Pakistan will be engulfed in the > firestorm. So I can only hope that cooler heads > will prevail in Washington. > > -- > > Q: What about the other U.S. demands? > > A: Overflight rights are meaningless since the > U.S. violates air space daily all over the > world. As for intelligence sharing with ISI, > you can't even catch your own terrorists. And > what ISI gives you will be of marginal value > anyway. > > -- > > Q: President (Pervez) Musharraf has made strong > statements supporting the U.S. > > A: He was my student in the army. He is a good > man, but he doesn't understand Islam. The army > will never fight the masses. If push comes to > shove, Musharraf will say no to the Americans > rather than turn against the people. He is not > just facing a handful of angry people. By his > own admission, it's 10 percent to 15 percent of > the population, or at least 10 million people > willing to fight. For openers, they would close > the port of Karachi. A country cannot breathe > without lungs. > > -- > > Q: Back to Osama's terrorist network. Who was > behind the bombing of the U.S. Embassies in > Tanzania and Kenya? > > A: Mossad is strong in both countries. Remember > the Israeli operation to free hostages in > Entebbe (Uganda)? Both Kenya and Tanzania were > part of the logistical tail. A so-called > associate of Osama was framed at Karachi > airport. The incidents took place on Aug. 8, > 1999, and on the 10th a short, clean-shaven man > disembarks at Karachi airport and presents the > passport of a bearded man. Not your passport, > he was told. He then tries to bribe the clerk > with 200 rupees. A ludicrously small sum given > the circumstances. The clerk says no and turns > him in and he starts singing right away. Not > plausible. Osama has sworn to me on the Koran > it was not him and he is truthful to a fault. > Pious Muslims do not kill innocent civilians > who included many Muslim victims. The passport > must have been switched while the man was > asleep on the plane in what has all the > earmarks of a Mossad operation. For 10 years, > the Mujahideen fought the Soviets in > Afghanistan and not a single Soviet embassy was > touched anywhere in the world. So this could > not have been Osama's followers. > > -- > > Q: What if bin Laden has been lying to you and > is guilty. Is that inconceivable? > > A: If Taliban are given irrefutable evidence of > his guilt, I am in favor of a fair trial. In > America, one is entitled to a jury of peers. > But he has no American peers. The Taliban would > not object, in the event of a prima face case, > to an international Islamic court meeting in > The Hague. They would turn extradite Osama to > the Netherlands. > >-- Copyright 2001 by United Press International. >All rights reserved. --
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