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Rumsfeld questioned on iraq alqaeda connection { May 5 2006 }

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Rumsfeld heckled, grilled on Iraq intelligence at speech

By Peter Spiegel, Tribune Newspapers: Los Angeles Times. Times staff writer Julian Barnes contributed
Published May 5, 2006


WASHINGTON -- When Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld goes on the road to deliver a speech, it's usually in front of a relatively respectful crowd: U.S. troops stationed overseas, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation have been among his audiences this year.

An audience Thursday in Atlanta turned out to be a bit different.

Rumsfeld was interrupted three times by anti-war protesters and was forced to defend himself against charges by a former high-ranking CIA analyst that he lied to push the United States into war in Iraq.

Rumsfeld sought to make light of the flak during his address to the Southern Center for International Studies, a non-profit educational group, telling the audience that the protesters were just a few "close personal friends" of Peter White, the center's president.

Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who once gave President George H.W. Bush his morning intelligence briefings, engaged in an extended debate with Rumsfeld after asking why the defense secretary had insisted before the Iraq invasion that there was "bulletproof evidence" linking Saddam Hussein to Al Qaeda.

"Was that a lie, Mr. Rumsfeld, or was that manufactured somewhere else? Because all of my CIA colleagues disputed that, and so did the 9/11 commission," McGovern said during a question-and-answer session. "Why did you lie to get us into a war that was not necessary?"

At the start of the exchange, Rumsfeld remained unflappable, insisting, "I haven't lied. I did not lie then," before launching into a vigorous defense of the administration's prewar pronouncements on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

But he became tongue-tied when McGovern pressed him on claims that he knew where unconventional Iraqi weapons were located.

"You said you knew where they were," McGovern said.

"I did not. I said I knew where suspected sites were," Rumsfeld retorted.

McGovern then read from the defense secretary's past statements. As U.S. troops approached Baghdad in March 2003, Rumsfeld had said about weapons of mass destruction: "We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

That led Rumsfeld to briefly stammer. He recovered after admonishing a security guard who was trying to push McGovern away from the microphone.

Rumsfeld insisted U.S. troops believed they would encounter chemical or biological weapons.

He went on to field a dozen other questions, including from a woman whose son was killed in Iraq and who asked about help for the children of slain service members. Rumsfeld asked her to submit her name to Southern Center officials. "And I'm so sorry about your son," he said.

In an interview after the speech, McGovern, 66, who lives in the Washington, D.C., area, said he obtained a ticket for Thursday's address through an acquaintance who had forwarded him an e-mail invitation. The invitation directed him to a Web site that asked for detailed information about his background.

"I filled it all out and, lo and behold, there was a ticket in the mail," he said.

White, the center's president, said he had sent invitations to a wide range of civic and business groups, noting that the Pentagon had put no restrictions on who should be included.

McGovern said his question was prompted by Rumsfeld's response to one of the three antiwar protesters who interrupted the defense secretary's prepared address, accusing him of lying about prewar intelligence.

"That charge is frequently leveled against the president for one reason or another, and it is so wrong, so unfair and so destructive of a free system where people need to trust each other and government," Rumsfeld said after the protester had been whisked out of the room.


Copyright © 2006, Chicago Tribune



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